Trump's controversial order puts Massachusetts Republicans in a difficult position -- caught between their party's national standard-bearer, the president, and their party's state standard-bearer, Gov. Charlie Baker.
Massachusetts Republicans have little interest in talking about President Donald Trump's order on immigrants and refugees.
"I haven't really given it a lot of thought. I've been focused on other things," said State Sen. Don Humason, R-Westfield, on Monday, after two days of protests in Massachusetts over Trump's order.
Trump's order bars travel into the U.S. for 90 days by non-U.S. citizens from seven predominantly Muslim countries: Iran, Iraq, Syria, Sudan, Libya, Yemen and Somalia. It also suspends the admission of all refugees for 120 days and Syrian refugees indefinitely.
The order became effective immediately on Friday, and some travelers with green cards or other visas who were already in transit were detained at U.S. airports. The order has resulted in protests nationwide, including in Massachusetts. Federal judges, including one in Boston, have put temporary stays on parts of Trump's order.
Trump's controversial order puts Massachusetts Republicans in a difficult position: caught between their party's national standard-bearer, the president, and their party's state standard-bearer, Gov. Charlie Baker.
Baker, who did not support Trump's election but has said he is willing to work with the administration to protect Massachusetts' interests, has spoken out against the way the order was implemented.
In an interview with WGBH radio, Baker did not oppose a temporary travel ban. But, he said Trump was wrong in not providing any warning or process.
Baker also opposed the initial application of the ban to green card holders and travelers with other visas, saying Massachusetts benefits from business and academic relationships with people from all over the world. The Trump administration on Sunday began letting green card holders in.
"I talked to people who had gotten on a plane, legal residents who had green cards, had been here years and years and were part of our communities," Baker said. "Their families were worried about whether they would be able to get off the plane when they got to Logan."
The top two Republicans in the state Legislature -- State Senate Minority Leader Bruce Tarr, of Gloucester, and State House Minority Leader Brad Jones, of North Reading -- did not return calls left with their spokesmen. Tarr's spokesman said the senator was at his mother's memorial service on Sunday so he may not have had time to examine Trump's policy.
A call left with Massachusetts Republican Party Chairwoman Kirsten Hughes' spokesman Terry MacCormack was not returned. Neither was a message left with a staffer for National Republican Committeewoman and State Rep. Keiko Orrall.
Interviews with some Massachusetts Republicans reflect a split in the party.
State Rep. Geoff Diehl of Whitman, who co-chaired Trump's Massachusetts campaign, defended the president's order. "Like previous presidents, Republican or Democrat, this is a temporary travel ban while we revisit the vetting process," Diehl said. "It's a smart first step to ensure we do a better job of protecting citizens in our country."
Asked about the chaotic and immediate implementation, Diehl said Trump is simply fulfilling promises he made on the campaign trail. "The sooner he does it, the safer the country is," Diehl said.
Diehl said while he recognizes that there are Massachusetts Republicans who disagree with Trump's agenda, Trump won 49 percent of the vote in Massachusetts' Republican primary. "Republicans in the primary process in Massachusetts knew very well what he stood for, none of this is secret, and gave him an overwhelming win," Diehl said.
Other Republicans were more critical. Republican National Committeeman Ron Kaufman, who worked in President George H.W. Bush's administration and at the Republican National Committee under President Ronald Reagan, said his main critique of the policy is with the implementation and lack of communication from the White House. "There's so much misinformation and misunderstanding because of a lack of good communication," Kaufman said.
On the policy's substance, Kaufman called the balance between national security and human rights "a tough one" that is "sometimes not pretty," and said he agrees that vetting is important and something must be done to make America safe from terrorism.
But Kaufman said, "implementation was not as it should have been." He said he is hopeful that with the administration at the very beginning of its term, communication will be improved in the future, and misunderstandings on the order will be cleared up regarding things like who the policy applies to and whether Christians will get preference.
Other Republican activists went further in opposing Trump. Reed Hillman, a Republican State Committee member from Sturbridge, said he was "very, very upset" about the travel ban applying to all residents from the seven countries.
"God knows the majority of people in those seven countries are not terrorists and never will be," Hillman said. "To use that broad brush and eliminate all immigration, to include needy refugees, is the wrong cause of action."
Hillman, who did not support Trump in the primary, said he agrees there needs to be vetting to ensure terrorists do not enter the country. But he also thinks the U.S. has a humanitarian responsibility to accept refugees. He worries about "the optics" of telling the Muslim world that the United States does not trust Muslims, which could provide more ammunition to terrorist groups.
John Andrulis, a Republican State Committeeman from Leeds, called Trump's order "impulsive" and "overkill." Andrulis said more terrorist incidents in the U.S. have been the product of homegrown terrorism than immigrants. "He's really in a sense throwing out the baby with the bathwater. ... Banning basically all immigrants from certain countries, most of whom have proven very law-abiding," Andrulis said.
Andrulis, who voted for Libertarian presidential nominee Gary Johnson in the general election as a protest against the two major party candidates, said he believes Trump is "going too far" and "using an ax where a scalpel might do" by banning all immigration, including families with children, rather than vetting particular individuals.
The Republican / MassLive.com left messages for seven other Republican State Committee members and a state representative in Western Massachusetts. None returned the calls.